johnson some questions. these programs that you pay interest on is the number one priority, i think every family would like to pay off interest. social security, and somewhere active duty military, and i think that is patriotic as well as political. under this scenario, dr. johnson, will we be paying the people we borrow from in china, the largest creditor, we will pay them before the military who got caught in korea fighting the chinese. does this work out in terms of aborting the payment of our debt that we would pay off our debtors before we pay off our military? is that part of the plan? >> well, it is hard to know. i don't think these plans are very detailed, worked out, credible plans. they are vague notions, the one i've seen. i have seen the notion that the united states will pay its debt in the form of interest on bonds, a substantial fracture is held by the chinese, for example. ahead of other payments, which include payments to active service military personnel, if example. >> it seems you owe any